Trade: Organized Chaos | Hustle Loyalty Respect

Organized Chaos trades away:

Hustle Loyalty Respect trades away:

  • 1B Grant Lavigne
  • SP Lucas Sims ($5.50)
  • 2020 3rd Round Pick

BAILEY’s Thoughts

If I had to bet money on who in this league is the biggest “Rick Porcello fan,” I’d put money on myself. Yet… despite Porcello being relentlessly offered to everyone, I never pulled the trigger. And I’m okay with it.

Porcello’s been a good, if not great, pitcher throughout his career who offers a solid, boring floor and some occasional clunkers. He’s durable and reliable. This year there have been more clunkers than normal, but at least one (the stupid London) game you can safely disregard. Going forward, I expect Porcello to be a decent depth starter that usually won’t kill you. In this league, my problem is his salary for what he is. If there weren’t salaries, his value goes up, in my opinion. But because there are and he’s $25 ($27 to keep, minimum)… I find him in a weird gray area of keepable players. You could keep him. But I wouldn’t, personally. Those clunkers I just mentioned have been going up in frequency and the floor seems to be getting lower and lower, which is all fine because it’s still a fairly safe floor, but Porcello at $27 isn’t all that different from a bunch of $10 or less dart throws. I suspect that — and what I’ve got to say, was a crazy high asking price — is what made this trade take so long to finally happen. Another thing about Porcello: there’s great temptation to sit him in tough match-ups, but he’s a pretty good pitcher overall, so sometimes he does really well in those games. He’s good to randomly dominate the Yankees on your bench once a year. Which does you zero good and is really frustrating.

In the end, Swinson got, for starters, basically a fringe top-150 prospect in Grant Lavigne, who I feel like falls outside the top-200 in most circles if not for the prospect of playing home games in Coors Field. I haven’t paid much attention to him, but I believe Hustle offered him to me recently, and one thing I think I know about Hustle is this: he’s really good at finding prospects (“he’s the single greatest prospector I’ve ever played with, hands down, no exceptions” – Steve Fernsler), but if he offers you one, he’s either getting something awesome in return or feels comfortable replacing the guy with someone else off waivers. I think the latter is the case here. Lavigne’s a teenage 1Bman-only prospect that beasted last year but has underwhelmed this year over a larger sample. So basically, the upside isn’t there and the wait time is too long for a guy that plays a position that’s super easy to fill, so this trade shuttles him off with profit and lets Hustle add a better lottery ticket off waivers. Seems fine!

So in addition to Lavigne, there’s Lucas Sims, who was once a top prospect but sort of fell off the map, then reappeared this year in Cincinnati. He had one good start in May and then… vanished. I mean, not vanished. He’s alive and pitches. But it’s in the minors, where he’s got a 1.09 HR/9. He’s also not cost controlled, so he’s $7 to keep right now, which really is fine. If he was cost controlled he’d be $1 instead and the $6 is pretty irrelevant. But still. That makes Sims a tad less valuable. Cost control is life.

And finally, there’s a third round pick which… okay, cool. Whatever.

In the end, this trade is weird to me as someone who received a ton of Porcello offers over the months. This deal is Porcello for Lavigne in my eyes, which is… well, seems like a way lower asking price than I ever recall seeing. Maybe I’m just not high enough on Sims and don’t care enough about draft picks (I recently traded a first rounder for Andrelton Simmons and legitimately have no idea why, but someone else actually traded a pick for a relief pitcher so I don’t feel as bad about that anymore). And again, if one owner maybe, possibly thinks they can pick a better prospect up off waivers tomorrow in Lavigne… what’s that say about the haul?

Anyway, trade is obviously fine overall. I’d rather have HLR’s side here even if cutting Porcello at year’s end, but I at least like knowing that Coach shopped and shopped and presumably landed here, on a deal he likes.

Trade: TBD | Who’s Your Haddy?

Who’s Your Haddy? trades away:

  • RP Kirby Yates $2

TBD trades away:

  • 2020 3rd Round Pick

BAILEY’s Thoughts

This is pretty great for Haddy. Relievers are meant to be either streamed or paid totally unnecessary amounts of money at auction. It is their only destiny. Even though Kirby Yates is one of the best ones, still, he’s not worth very much, as reflected here. His week to week impact is minimal and his edge over replacement at his position, plus the sheer volume of relievers available, make him just not that big a deal. Getting a 3rd round pick feels like a steal for Haddy. It also feels like way more than he got for Buster Posey. #RespectfulButUnapologetic

For TBD, this is a funny flex move. Josh and Joe (mostly Josh, I think; he told me Joe doesn’t know very much about prospects so he’s the one that does most of the pick-ups there. Just a fun trivia nugget) are so good at picking up prospects off waivers that they punted a 3rd round pick for a bullpen piece. It’s bad, but it also won’t matter for them at all. Their team, led by cost controlled stud Matt Chapman, is stacked. A mid-round pick is nothing.

Trade: The Process | Who’s Your Haddy?

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Who’s Your Haddy? trades away

  • Gibson, Kyle $15
  • Pence, Hunter $5.50

The Process trades away

  • Trammell, Taylor (prospect)
  • La Stella, Tommy $5.50

Jordan’s Thoughts

Ferns continues his all in push by swapping out this year’s Justin Turner break out candidate Tommy La Stella who just broke his leg for two useful pieces. La Stella poses to be an easy keeper into next year even if he gets greeded significantly.

Hunter Pence found a time machine back to his 2011 former self and has been hitting a .393 wOBA with a 142 wRC+. But, he’s hurt. Will the magic rebirth fade away? Who knows.

Kyle Gibson has given up a few extra homers this year, but has walked more than a batter less per nine innings. He’s getting better, and if the home run rate regresses for him, he’s a legit top end pitcher for fantasy purposes. However, in 2019’s home run setting, Gibson is merely above average.

Taylor Trammel is a top 10 prospect and a pretty significant price to pay for Pence and Gibson. Trammel isn’t exactly lighting up the minor leagues, but he’s moving up at a reasonable rate and he has incredible plate discipline.

I like the trade for both teams. Ferns isn’t making this deal if La Stella isn’t hurt. Sometimes those kinds of things happen and force some action. Pence’s long term value is little at best, but Kyle Gibson has been slowly ascending tiers. I prefer Haddy’s side all said and done, but barely.

Hustle’s Toxic $.02

Value wise, this trade really does seem fine. I like it for both teams. Hunter Pence is something again, but clearly has overachieved and not counting on him for next season seems like a no brainer decision for Haddy, even if that one somehow backfires. For Ferns, he’s a useful OF/UTIL piece rest of a season with the potential to keep cheaply.

Kyle Gibson as a sub $20 keeper next year is an underrated asset.  He’s depth to Ferns rotation now and an easy unexciting keep.  The auction will be slightly better this year, but if you think you’re picking up multiple solid SP options in the 2020 season, you’re probably wrong.  If you think you’re going to win good cheap SP options in the 2020 auction for 2021, you’re almost definitely wrong.  I’ve had cap space in the 2017/2018 auctions and went after pitching and don’t think anyone ended up on my team the year after from those picks. Not to say it hasn’t or can’t be done, but it’s quite difficult and flukey.  Haddy is thin on SP and this makes his rotation for next year even thinner.  With a lot of budget, just keeping Gibson and needing one less SPs makes some sense.

“Tommy La Stella’s injury is a crushing blow to The Process” is a sentence I never thought I’d be saying non-sarcastically. But I did. If La Stella is the new Justin Turner, that certainly favors Haddy’s side here.  Much like with his Montas acquisition, who knows if they are truly for real. I actually dont hate getting both those guys for Haddy at all. They were cheaper to acquire than sexy minor leaguers, are very cheap, and are major league ready. If Montas and La Stella are even close to what we’ve seen this year, it will really jumpstart his rebuild.

As I have told Bailey well before this trade was made, I believe Taylor Trammel’s best use in an ottoneu points themed league is for tradebait.  He seems like a major leaguer one day, but I’m having trouble seeing him anything more than a servicable starter. He just seems like a better real life player or for a league that counts steals. His name surpasses his value here, and even after I take this minor poop on him, Haddy should have no trouble trading him for someone more useful to him. He’s on lists, he’s a dude, he’s tradebait.

 

 

Trade: Beach Bum | Who’s Your Haddy?

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Beach Bum🏝😎trades away

  • Schmidt, Clarke (prospect)
  • Baumann, Michael (prospect)

Who’s Your Haddy? trades away

  • Posey, Buster $58

Jordan’s Thoughts

Haddy has traded away here a future Hall of Famer, Buster Posey who so far in 2019 has not been very useful. Posey has been a part of our auction draft every single year because he’s always too expensive to keep. But, then in the draft enough teams realize there’s more money available than there are elite talents.

So guys like Posey get a lot of money based on name value. Not awful. Beach Bum is buying low on a potential second half bounce back. We’ve seen worse deals.

Clarke Schmidt is a 45FV prospect in the Yankees organization who is 23 years old and hasn’t gotten above A-ball. Pitchers can make large jumps and the level is less important than for hitters. So far this year he’s doing alright, but he’s probably a reliever.

Michael Baumann is a podcaster for The Ringer’s MLB Show who dabbles as a 40FV prospect in the Baltimore Orioles system. Both pitching prospects here are old for their level and have good numbers. Maybe something happens.

Posey is a waiver wire add, and the two prospects are also waiver wire adds. This trade is fine in the fact that for both teams, nobody lost anything, so there’s likely that nobody really gained anything.

 

Hustle’s Toxic $.02

Wow, I’m inspired by Jordan looking up prospects.  Posey is having a down year and is quite an easy cut again, but he’s shown signs of life lately.  Without a doubt Haddy will not regret giving away Posey, and if he does he will get him in auction for certainly less than $58.  That being said, these prospects are nothing and I feel like you shop and research prospects a little better to find someone with more value. If Posey suffers a serious injury between now and the trade deadline, you get nothing.  I still take the risk and do that if the price tag on him currently was nothing, which by this trade, it was.

Dan has all his draft picks right now and is currently one of the best teams in the league while using Alex Avila and Curt Casail.  Does he really turn down a 2nd or 3rd round pick for Buster Posey? I would not if I were in his shoes. Those picks are easily sellable for somewhere between $3-12 if every other minor league draft is any indication.  $3-12 is better than nothing, which was the return here.

Trade: The Foundation | Who’s Your Haddy?

The Foundation trades away

  • 2020 Draft Pick, Round 4 (Who’s Your Haddy?)
  • Montas, Frankie $5
  • Waters, Drew (prospect)

Who’s Your Haddy? trades away

  • Sale, Chris $94

Jordan’s Thoughts

I mean its Chris Sale. He used April for Spring Training, and now he’s a top 5 pitcher again. Frankie Montas got caught doping, he won’t pitch again this year, at least in a Dynasty Grinders season window. For $5, based on his performance gain, Montas is a huge piece of this trade. He’s hard to lose. But, anytime with PEDs, there’s just a ton of questions that cloud the value.

Perhaps he comes back next season and he’s a top 10 pitcher at essentially no cost. Perhaps he comes back and he’s average. Who knows. He had value, but no longer had value to me for this year where I’m trying to win. Easy for me to move away from.

Being in the 6th spot in a 6 team playoff format, this kind of trade helps me hang on. Once you’re in the playoffs, in our head to head format, pitchers like Chris Sale can swing a playoff week for you. Who knows? He could help me make a run.

For Haddy’s, selling Sale makes enough sense. I’m guessing when he shopped Sale around he was hoping for a stronger market. Getting back Montas is fine. Drew Waters is a FV55 center fielder who in double-A is crushing the ball. His 152 wRC+ over 80 games trends well for the 20-year-old. Waters has been climbing prospect charts for a while now and shows no real signs of slowing down.

Overall, I love this trade for myself. Losing Montas and Waters is easily worth the gamble to hold on and solidify myself for a playoff run. Even if I miss the playoffs, Sale is keepable at whatever price tag. He’s just that consistently good.

BAILEY’s Thoughts

A lot of what I wrote about the Verlander trade applies here and I don’t want to go heavy negative again twice.

So having said that, predictably, yes, I like this for Jordan. When this deal first went down, I sort of assumed it’d be tough for Jordan to keep Chris Sale at $99 — but he’s probably gonna cost around $110 when all is said and done — but that’s not true. Andrew McCutchen coming off injury at $54 is an easy cut. Jose Quintana, who went for an inflated auction lack-of-pitching price and will be $60, is an easy cut. That right there is $114, which is Sale’s max value. Anyone in their right mind is trading McCutchen/Quintana for Sale, so sure. Obviously that doesn’t include raises, greed, or cost control arbitration, but it’s close enough to where Jordan can move around lesser, meaningless pieces and make it work. Like, you don’t keep a $28 Yasiel Puig if it means losing Sale. Ditto a $68 Corey Seager. So yeah, great deal for 2019 Jordan and beyond.

For Haddy, I’ll stay positive: I love Drew Waters. I picked him up last year and think he’s going to be really good. The Braves future outfield looks stacked. The 4th round pick is… literally nothing. I can’t be positive there.

The best part of this trade is Frankie Montas, who will be $7 pre-greed and while he’s risky, at least we’ve seen flashes of excellence at the major league level. Montas is the type of piece missing from so many of these rebuild deals, where teams seem hell bent on picks and prospects and blind to actual major league talent.

This year Montas pitched to a brilliant 2.90 FIP and 3.38 xFIP over 90 innings. And contrary to what Jordan wrote, I don’t feel like the PEDs are a big red flag over his performance. He added a splitter to his repertoire this year, giving him a fourth pitch, and it worked out great for him. PEDs won’t change that. In fact, for Haddy, the suspension is pretty great. He just gets to sit and rest his arm for three months. Yay.

To me, at 202 career IP and now that he’s got this new pitch, Montas is essentially still a prospect. He’s only 26 and pitchers take time. But unlike any other pitching prospect on a Top 100 list, he’s done stuff at the majors. There’s a track record here. He’s not a total dart throw. So for Haddy, I like the main piece coming back being one of immediate, somewhat proven fantasy relevance.

Trade: The Foundation | Marshall Law

The Foundation trades away

  • Cashner, Andrew $1

Marshall Law trades away

  • 2020 Draft Pick, Round 3 (Beach Bum🏝😎)
  • 2021 Draft Pick, Round 5 (Marshall Law)

Jordan’s Thoughts

I’m not above reviewing my own trades. Andrew Cashner has been ridiculously good over the last 60 days to the tune of being a 30 point per start starter for the Baltimore Orioles. Any starting pitcher under $10 to keep is worth keeping.

So why do this trade? Well at the time I needed roster spots, Had 12 other starting pitchers and its Andrew Cashner. He’s over performing his outcomes and has a history of getting hot before cooling off. I held onto him for two months and almost cut him a few times, but never really needed or wanted to start him in a fantasy week, even though I should have.

For Ryan this trade makes sense. Two low draft picks aren’t a ton of value for a starting pitcher. Cashner has value as your 6-7th guy even beyond this year. You don’t want a staff full of Cashners, but having one makes sense when the cost is nominal.

BAILEY’s Thoughts

I’m not surprised that Jordan was able to find a trade partner for Andrew Cashner quicker than he was for Steven Matz. Relievers just aren’t that valuable in this league.

Trade: Hustle Loyalty Respect | JobuNeedsARefill

Hustle Loyalty Respect🏃🤝✊trades away

  • Voth, Austin

JobuNeedsARefill trades away

  • 2020 Draft Pick, Round 5 (JobuNeedsARefill)

Jordan’s Thoughts

Anytime you can trade a 5th round pick for a starter in Major League Baseball, you have to do it. HLR probably needed the roster spot so they could turn over their roster more for no other reason than curing boredom. So I guess from that perspective, that’s a win for Iosim.

Jobu gets a pitcher that has made two MLB starts, and while he’s probably a back end pitcher, you need those guys to build a team. Its a clear win for Jobu.

BAILEY’s Thoughts

This is alright.

Trade: TBD | Who’s Your Haddy?

TBD trades away

  • Solak, Nick (prospect)
  • May, Dustin (prospect)
  • Adams, Jordyn (prospect)
  • Groshans, Jordan (prospect)
  • 2020 Draft Pick, Round 1 (The Process)

Who’s Your Haddy? trades away

  • Verlander, Justin $50

Jordan’s Thoughts

Justin Verlander is OLD. 36 is a high number for a baseball player and fantasy owners alike. However, this deal is about finishing this year strong. TBD currently in first place, is padding their roster for a deep playoff run. It is smart, makes sense, and its for a player that clearly makes a difference.

Verlander is currently 5th in highest points scored in our league. He’s averaging nearly 42 points a start. In a two start week, he can bury your opponent. He didn’t help Haddy enough, as the rest of your roster still matters, but for TBD’s duo, the rest of their roster was fine before they added Verlander.

For TBD making this trade is easy. Trading some of tomorrow’s lottery tickets for an actual top end upgrade for today is something you do every day. Prospects are easy to come by, teams need them, they’re nice to have, but this is the best way (in my humble opinion) to use prospects. To push to win. Waiting on them to mature is fine, you hope they make crazy weird jumps to relevance that makes you feel good and seem like a genius. But, none of us really know.

For Haddy, well if you’re out, these kinds of deals make sense. Verlander isn’t helping you win this year, winning is no longer a top concern. Verlander would help you win next year, however he is older, and he’s a pitcher and they break. If I’m Haddy I’m pretty happy with this return. He’s getting two top 100 prospects, May who’s a top 20, plus two other prospects who are better than interesting.

The two Jordan’s (Jordyn?) were first round top 20 picks in the MLB 2018 draft. Both grade out as 45+ FV guys with hit tools being their ticket. Betting on those guys is a good idea.

Dustin May (60FV) just got called up to AAA and will be tested by the new home run ball. So far in 2019 he has looked good and projects to be a middle of the rotation, perhaps potentially a top end starter.

Nick Solak (50FV) is also in AAA for the Rays/Expos and he walks and hits for power. He’s the classic profile I like to target for my hitters in these kinds of leagues. For me he looks like a high floor hitter, with a ceiling that potentially could be very sexy.

I like what Haddy got back, but he’ll miss Verlander next year when he’s going to push to get back into the playoffs again. TBD will have forgotten who these prospects are this time next year. They have shown time and time again their ability to reload the system cost effectively. Verlander doesn’t guarantee a championship, but it makes it harder for them to lose it.

Bailey’s Thoughts

Okay, so up front: Jordan’s already written his review, but I’m not going to read it first. So if I repeat anything he said, sorry.

In short: I love this for TBD and don’t understand it at all for Haddy. I really don’t.

Here’s the thing about this league, in my opinion: we’re in year four and there has, to my recollection, never been an “ace” starting pitcher at auction. Let me think. I think Luis Severino was in our second year, but he was just a random former prospect then. And are we confident he’s an “ace” currently? I’m sure not. I guess Zach Greinke, Madison Bumgarner, and David Price were the year before last. But is Price an “ace”? I think you want him as your SP2 or SP3, not SP1. Is Bumgarner an ace? I’d debate that, though he’s obviously good. Greinke’s an ace. So okay, in four years, one proven, surefire ace SP has made it to auction, and I think at the time there were looming questions about him. That’s the thing. These top tier starters do not hit auction. They don’t. Verlander won’t. TBD is 100% keeping him unless he suffers an injury, or I guess trading him.

I guess also, when I say “ace,” it’s kind of deceiving because it makes you think pitcher. I’m sort of thinking as just overall, elite player. Mike Trout doesn’t get to auction. Cody Bellinger doesn’t. Christian Yelich doesn’t. Freddie Freeman doesn’t. The only way you get these guys is by trading for them or by stumbling upon one.

Here’s what happens, time and time again: all the stud pitchers get sold for prospects because their salary or age is so terrifying. Oh no, Verlander is 36 and my goal is to build a dynasty that dominates for eight years in a row, gotta dump him. Then there’s 6-8 teams with $200+ of cap space to spend on the ace they assume will get cut, but instead, those 6-8 teams get to fight over Chris Archer or Dallas Keuchel or Buster Posey whoever. One of each of that tier of player gets dispersed to those 6-8 teams, but because those 6-8 teams gutted themselves to get a low salary, that one player doesn’t change anything. And also half those players bust because they were risky to begun with, thus being sent back to auction. Rinse and repeat. The year we had Greinke, Bumgarner, Price, and oh yeah, Shohei Ohtani, guess what? Four separate teams totaling $218 in salary. So if you’ve rebuilt down to $250 of cash to spend, you better: (a) hope there are four players like that at auction, (b) win two or three, if not all four, and (c) then hope the player actually pans out to be an impact player. Living the auction dream is scary shit.

I want very badly to know what the market was for a $50, starting at $52 to keep, Justin Verlander. At worst, he gets $15 of greed and costs $67. THAT. IS. NOTHING. He’s the 5th overall scorer right now, this year. He finished third last year. He finished 19th the year before and third a year earlier. I get that pitchers are fragile, old pitchers especially, but this dude will impact your team more than almost any other player. I continue to not understand why a guy like this is considered such a bad risk but a pitching prospect isn’t. JV’s a 99th percentile performer and he fetched… two good prospects (May, Groshans), a couple prospects that teams like HLR, TBD, and Long Ball scoop off waivers with regularity, and a draft pick. That’s it? I’m a dipshit for not submitting offers. Shame on me. I didn’t think I had the pieces. But I want to know if any “rebuilders” inquired here. Haddy? Did you get offers from the teams that have gutted their rosters down to $200? Why didn’t you engage with me on Trevor Story (was it the Matt Chapman thing, where cost control is only cool until the player is a stud, then it’s not sexy anymore) for Verlander? WHYYYYYY?!

I like Dustin May and all, but TINSTAAPP. I like Jordan Groshans too, but optimistically, he’s not scoring fantasy points until 2021. Maybe Nick Solak becomes Jeff McNeil or something, which is helpful but lacking real impact. A first round pick? What freakin’ ever.

If I’m Haddy, I’d rather just keep Verlander and run it back in 2020 and maybe 2021 and maybe even 2022, especially after already dumping Chris Sale. Cut freakin’ Jose Abreu‘s $70 salary and just keep Verlander. Or trade Abreu for half this same package. Easy. Sure, maybe you flip all the ones you just got for this type of guy later, but maybe not. Again, the list of guys who produce like JV is super slim. Bird in hand, etc. I’m not taking this package for Scherzer. I doubt HLR’s taking it for Arenado. Dan’s not taking it for Yelich or Gerrit Cole. Maybe May becomes Syndergaard 2.0, but cost controlled, and I look foolish. Except not really, because even if that happens, that’s not even remotely the most likely outcome. That’s dumb luck. If he ever, at any point, becomes Verlander right now, you basically hit the lottery. I’ll just leave this here:

Trade: The Foundation | Hustle Loyalty Respect

The Foundation trades away

  • Anderson, Ian (prospect)
  • 2020 Draft Pick, Round 1 (The Foundation)

Hustle Loyalty Respect🏃🤝✊trades away

  • 2020 Draft Pick, Round 2 (Hustle Loyalty Respect🏃🤝✊)
  • Syndergaard, Noah $86
  • Ward, Thad (prospect)

Jordan’s Thoughts

Currently The Foundation is sitting in 6th place after losing back to back weeks. At 8-5, the time is now to start spending pieces to move all in. Syndergaard helps a rotation that is currently being led by Ryu and Quintana.  He pairs well with Chris Sale who was acquired at the same time.

Noah Syndergaard has been less great this year than in the past. His strikeouts are down, and he’s generating more fly balls which are leaving ball parks at an all time rate. However, despite the downward trend, he’s still been a 32 point per start pitcher who gets deep into games and still has the stuff and projections that can push him into a keepable $86 pitcher. It’s going to be a tough pill to swallow, but a decision that can be worried about later. Acquiring Thor was about winning right now.

Thad Ward was thrown into the deal, and he’s worth ignoring.

Ian Anderson is currently in double-A for the Atlanta Braves and he’s striking everyone out. He’s walking a lot of dudes too though and that will hold back his potential debut for some time. He’s really good, former number 3 overall MLB draft pick, and currently the 33rd best prospect on the board. There’s real potential that Ian Anderson is pitching this year, but likely he’s on track for 2020. He’s a useful, available soon pitching prospect, assuming he doesn’t blow out his arm.

I love the deal for myself. Anytime you can turn future tickets into a win now move to win actual real money. You just have to do it. Jonny had been shopping Thor for months and for whatever reason, the market depressed itself to the point where the swap for the younger shiny toy at a cheaper cost just made sense. Hopefully, Thor is the swing man that helps The Foundation topple over the Hustlers.

Hustle’s TOXIC $.02

I got bored so I decided to rebuild. I think Thor is good, but would be impossible for me to keep.  I kinda thought I have the pitching depth to make this move, but maybe I don’t. Time will tell. If Thor gets injured, I don’t get half this return, probably in the offseason as well.  Jordan scoring the lowest points in the league the week before triggered him into making some trades, so I felt like this was a now or never time to trade Thor. Never was certainly a viable option, just ride him out and cut him in the offseason or trade him very little.  It was a risk, so be it.

I hope that the trade relationship I built with Jordan by giving him a top level pitcher will benefit me in the future like it has for Elton. Do I put a “/s”?  Is it implied?  Who knows?

I’m probably keeping close to $500 worth of players this offseason even without Thor, so locking in some upside pitchers who are close to the majors has been a plan of mine. Hoping 1 of Pearson, Manning, Anderson, or Deivi become a very valuable pitcher that I can build around.  If 2 or more hit, even better.

Hopefully Jordan loses some games to make that first round pick more valuable, but with his schedule altering, seems doubtful.

Trade: The Process | Who’s Your Haddy?

The Process trades away

  • Bader, Harrison $3.04
  • Rocchio, Brayan (prospect)
  • 2021 Draft Pick, Round 2 (Who’s Your Haddy?)

Who’s Your Haddy? trades away

  • Encarnación, Edwin $50

Jordan’s Thoughts

Edwin was a great Mariner for three months hitting homers left and right. Now he is a New York Yankee on a playoff run in a easier stadium to hit homers in. He’s a huge asset and definitely a target to grab.

The Process is currently in 10th place, sitting 6-7 and matched up in a must win week 14. Adding Edwin right now makes all the sense in the world and might make the difference who knows.

Best part, in my opinion, is that Ferns here has options. Keeping Edwin at $50 isn’t outrageous. You have to spend the money,  he’s a quality star worth spending on. In two weeks, you can trade him again, I think a similar package in 10 days is available, perhaps the package is even better.

The draft pick has whatever value draft picks have. Brayan Rocchio is an 18-year-old short stop in the Indians system and FanGraphs rates his hit tool at a 60 FV. That’s pretty. He’s currently doing alright in low-A ball and already on the top 100 list (currently 80).

Harrison Bader being in this deal is a punt from Ferns. Haddy is clearly wondering if there’s anything there yet. Bader’s age 25 season so far has been pretty bad. .296 wOBA and 82 wRC+ shows a cold start for the 2019 season. He’s cost controlled, not expensive and last year he was pretty good. Last year his BABIP was .358, this year its .261. Bader who’s pretty quick, probably settles in most years closer to the former number. He’s walking more, striking out slightly less than last year. Things look like a huge buy low guy. But, overall the ceiling here seems pretty low. He’s a CF, that fantasy wise probably tops out in the 10-12 spot, probably more typically in the 16-20 spot. He’s nice to have, value wise, but he needs to be more like last year, less like this year.

For the Haddy’s who are selling, this deal is fine. I know he was shopped around and if this was the the best package for Edwin, sure fine. It seems light, but its not awful. I like what Ferns is doing here, even though he’s playing me this week, don’t hate what Haddy did, seems like a solid trade for both parties.

BAILEY’s Thoughts

I like this trade for both teams. I wanted Edwin myself, but one glance at my roster construction tells you I just didn’t have much need for a 1Bman. So mostly, those negotiations were my way of getting Haddy to talk to me. We chatted, it was fun, so I didn’t make a trade but still feel like a winner.

For The Process, I like the aggressiveness. Edwin is clearly an awesome hitter with a track record of mashing for the better part of a decade. Could he suddenly hit the brick wall of age and suck? Sure. But right now he’s a lock for 30+, approaching 40 homers, and even with the juiced ball, those guys don’t grow on trees. His salary is high, but Ferns has strategically spent four years whittling down his budget to nothing, so he very easily has the option to keep Edwin at $52+ next year. I’m a big believer that worrying about a player’s salary is a waste of time. Lock in the points, worry about the stupid budget stuff later. There’s not a payout for having a $200 roster. And if this is just a short term move for Ferns to try and push into the playoffs, that’s cool too. If you make the playoffs, you put your $150 buy-in back in your pocket. If you don’t, you get a fighting chance at $75 or, if you’re really bad, a shot at a high draft pick. I’d much rather make a trade and gamble that I win back $150 of actual, real life cash than sit idly by for either of the other two prizes. I don’t think the price was that high.

I like Bryan Rocchio as a prospect. He was a guy I was targeting in our minors draft. He was expendable for Ferns though but should be a nice piece for Haddy by the time his retooled team is ready to compete again in 2023. Just kidding, Haddy! You won’t be ready to compete again until 2025.

Harrison Bader and the pick, meanwhile, are pretty blah. Hader will likely get just the minimum $2 raise to $5. I think given his prospect pedigree and that he’s immune to greed, that’s keepable into 2020. No risk there. I think there’s even a decent chance that Haddy opens up center field by trading Mike Trout to TBD for whichever prospects they scooped off waivers this morning, at which point, boom!, Bader is a starting CF in Dynasty Grinders.