Trade: Hustle Loyalty Respect | Organized Chaos

Organized Chaos trades away

Hustle Loyalty Respect trades away

  • SS Carlos Correa ($89)
  • SP Ian Anderson (prospect)
  • 2020 2nd Round Pick

Jordan’s Thoughts

I think most people look at trades and shake out roughly how they value players going each direction. Freddie Freeman is a great player at a valuable price. Carlos Correa is arguably a better player, at a more expensive price, however he spent half of this year hurt and he seems to be far from reliable.

Dansby Swanson is 25 years old now and just finished his 3rd straight professional season as a below average hitter. Dansby shows flashes of his capability as a hitter. But, I’m not as high on his future as some others are. If Swanson wasn’t a first overall draft pick, I’m certain people would have moved on from his status already.

Where do you land on Ian Anderson? As someone who’s traded him before. You kind of hate to lose the potential he brings. But, you know its fleeting. I think its way too early to truly call out a winner here for either side. I think given the contexts of each of the teams. I slightly prefer betting on Correa. That’s a gamble at best.

I guess at the end of the day I would have considered Freddie Freeman pretty much untradeable. He’s such a sturdy player to build around. Correa can be better. Ian Anderson might legendary. Fun trade!

BAILEY’S THOUGHTS

So where Hustle Loyalty Respect is seemingly giving points away by downgrading from Carlos Correa to Dansby Swanson, he’s also more than making up for that by going to Freddie Freeman from… uh, Garrett Cooper… as his 1Bman. To me, the gap between Correa and Swanson is palatable, especially when you bake in injury histories. The gap between Freeman and Cooper is enormous. Also HLR is saving $13, which is not quite nothing but mostly nothing. It also cost a pretty good pitching prospect and a 2nd round pick, so there’s that. I do know that lots of people have wanted Ian Anderson in trade in the last year or so. Ditto for Freeman. One interesting angle: HLR has had Correa on the trade block forever and he never got moved. Freeman, as best I can remember, has been untouchable. So I think out of Freeman and Correa, Freeman’s been the more coveted asset leaguewide, probably.

Anyway, ballparking it, I’d guess this is something like a 300-400 uptick in 2020 projected points for HLR. Possibly more. It’s a pretty big short-term win, I think. My numbers could also be way off because I did no actual math, yay!

For Organized Chaos, it’s weird in the sense that it subtracts that same amount of points and brings on a super high salary and I’m not totally sure why. If you’re giving up that many points, it signals you’re punting in 2020, but if you’re punting in 2020, Correa’s a weird guy to look to build around for 2021 just based on salary and how the league tends to view high salaries. He’s a great player if he’s giving you 7 points a game at $100 or whatever to keep, fine. My concern is that he’s played in just one full season and only played in 75 this year. Just strikes me as a big investment of talent and salary poured into a player that might not actually be reliable.

My guess would be that Chaos feels like sliding Pete Alonso from UT to 1B and then filling SS with Correa is his best bet moving forward in terms of filling his lineup and having flexibility. I’d still rather have the Freeman/Swanson side here and I don’t honestly think it’s too close, salaries and all that hoopla considered. I wonder what Chaos does from here. I feel like he needs to go add more pieces now.

Trade: Marshall Law | Long Ball to LF

Marshall Law trades away

$5 Auction budget 2020
2021 Draft Pick, Round 4 (Marshall Law)
2020 Draft Pick, Round 3 (The Process)

Long ball to LF (Johnnywise) trades away
Taillon, Jameson ($22)

 

hustle’s toxic $0.02

Really like this trade for Marshall. First and foremost, he gave up nothing. The picks are largely irrelevant. There should be a good sleeper available in the middle of round 3, but is LeavittBall going to be able to nab that one guy? History and track record says probably not.  Marshall is committing $22 in Taillon’s salary for 2020 and $5 as a sweetener to LB for the right to own Taillon for $24 in 2021.

I think if Taillon was healthy and in auction for 2020, he probably goes above $50.  Pirates cleaning house and having a new pitching coach can only be a plus for all Pirates pitching.  Chances are you aren’t spending under $25 in auction and getting a good SP to keep. Last year I think Domingo German was probably the only pitcher in that range that actually seems like a great keep for 2020, and even he might have trouble getting a rotation spot.

Anyway, it’s a good allocation of basically $27 budget  for Marshall, even if he won’t see meaningful points until 2021.   Taillon won’t even count as a roster spot because he’ll have precious IL eligibility. There’s even a non zero chance that Taillon gets Marshall some meaningful points in September.

For LeavitBall, I’m not quite sure what to make of this. The $5 in theory gives him more ammunition to get a big name in auction, and I’m sure if that’s the plan, other moves for cash are probably in the pipeline. That being said, I’m not sure giving up an actual asset for a mid round pick and $5 makes much sense regardless of the plan. This seems more confusing to me because LeavittBall has plenty of budget due to his 2 best moves in DynastyGrinders history 1) Picking up Ronald Acuna of the waiver wire and 2) Picking up Juan Soto off the waiver wire.  My guess is Leavitt was anxious to trade and Marshall was the only one willing to play ball. I think some of the other teams who have a lot of budget and have publicly/privately declared themself out for 2020, would have benefitted from a $24 Taillon in 2021.   Keith, if you’re reading this review, let me know.

Anyway, this trade ultimately Seems Fine (TM), but I do like the forward thinking by Marshall here, and I’m not quite sure it even puts a dent in his present, which a trade like this generally should. I look forward to Leavitt’s public explanation of this trade, maybe I am missing something.

Leavitt’s public explanation: Good review. Maybe after reading it I should have been a little more patient, but as much as I like Taillon he is out for the year with no guarantees to be the same after a 2nd TJ surgery. I wasn’t about to waste 25 dollars of my budget on a 0. I tried to acquire a few prospects I liked but that didn’t go anywhere so I added a few dollars to his draft pick offers and took something for nothing in my view. I bought Garrett Richards for 5 dollars last year, I don’t think a guy out for the year was getting much more than 20, specially with this auction primed to be better with the new rules in place.

 

 

BAILEY’s Thoughts

Hustle stole most of my thoughts about this trade, much like I stole Max Scherzer in a trade once.

The picks are nothing. The $5 is nothing (yay, $5 extra you can throw at Mike Leake!). Granted, for 2020 at least, Jameson Taillon is also nothing. But a year ago he was roughly a top-25 overall SP and he’ll be back and still young, albeit with a laundry list of injuries, in 2021. So for Marshall, this is a long-term investment of just auction budget and no actual acquisition cost. I like that. We see every single year that the auction is brutal. Teams bring in tons of cash thinking they’re going to land someone awesome and instead overpay mediocre players that won’t be kept beyond that year anyway, like $63 Yusei Kikuchi or $32 Adam Jones. So Marshall essentially flushed some percentage of his future auction cash now rather than later but added an asset that feels a lot safer and with more upside.

Hustle noted that “if Taillon was healthy and in auction for 2020, he probably goes above $50,” but I would actually throw out that if Taillon, in his injured state, made it to auction this year, he’d go for at least $30 just because there’s a half dozen teams with more than $200 to spend. So kudos to Marshall for sniffing that out and getting this done now.

For Long Ball, I hope this is just “I want to cut this dead 2020 salary anyway, so I may as well take this and be done with it” and not “I listed a bunch of stuff on my trade block and the thing with the cheapest salary is the only thing anyone wants because oMg SaLaRy AnD cOsT cOnTrOl.” There’s no telling. I do think he got effectively nothing and might have done better waiting around for some of the tankers with budget space to check in. But maybe not. Sometimes the bird in hand is just better.

Thank you to both owners for taking a brief break from FANTASY FOOTBALL SZN to partake in this trade.

Trade: Hustle Loyalty Respect | Trumpa Loompas

Trumpa Loompas trades away

  • 2020 1st Round Pick

Hustle Loyalty Respect trades away

BAILEY’s Thoughts

So in order to move from the 12th pick to the 4th pick, HLR paid Marcell Ozuna and Jake Odorizzi at $36 of salary. So two quite good pieces, at decent prices, in order to lock up one of Rutschman, Vaughn, Witt Jr., or Abrams. Seems good to me considering HLR needs to trim down salary anyway (I think, I’d need to double check with Elton, the league’s unofficial auction budget monitor). HLR’s farm theoretically gets stronger, which is amusing given he didn’t tank to do it. In fact, HLR has tanked only once, and that was in the 2017 League Championship match-up.

Anyway, I think Trumpas “wins” this deal. Congrats.

At this point in the league, it makes sense to me for Trumpas to start pushing whatever chips to aggressively try to improve. Not to be too toxic but, like, how many years of irrelevance did 2019 make?  There’s like eight teams who currently are or previously have torn down for prospects. How does being the ninth provide a path to compete? The easiest path is something like this, where by moving down in the draft you get a slightly worse prospect so you’re still in position to add young cost controlled talent, but you add a solid starting LFman and a decent SPman to score you points now. Trumpas had the lowest scoring offense AND pitching last year. There’s no singular need here. This squad just needs good players and in this deal, they got two and essentially paid nothing that is or was going to score for them for… a while. It’s smart. And this wasn’t even taking on huge salaries for a year to try and quickly make an impact. Both Ozuna and Odorizzi have long-term value.

Trade: Marshall Law | Hustle Loyalty Respect

Marshall Law trades away

Hustle Loyalty Respect trades away

  • Corbin Martin (RIP)
  • 2020 4th Round Pick

BAILEY’s Thoughts

Simply by getting something for a $59 Jake Arrieta, I will congratulate Marshall Law as the winner of this trade.

I had personally been interested in Arrieta as a depth piece, but I just couldn’t muster up much of an offer. He’s not particularly good anymore (4.95 FIP), he’s too expensive to keep or re-trade, and his playoff match-ups aren’t even favorable (@ CIN, vs. BOS and ATL). But still, he logs innings and if he’s your 9th or 10th starting pitcher, which he is for HLR, then he’s fine as a rental that you just hope you never really have to use and then just cut when the time comes. HLR is savvy enough picking up prospects that the 4th rounder doesn’t matter and Corbin Martin is out with Tommy John, so he’s going to miss all of 2020 and probably the early part of 2021. Maybe there’s a rotation spot for him when he returns, maybe not. Maybe he returns without any diminished skills, maybe not.

I don’t think Marshall Law was going to do better than this. It’s splitting hairs, maybe, because perhaps someone offers a non-broken prospect that you think is more interesting.

The most interesting part of this trade is what Arrieta goes for at auction after he’s inevitably cut, and that really has nothing to do with the trade. With the rule changes, the auction should be deeper than in prior years. But owners simply don’t drop good starting pitchers. So as usual, there should be a bunch of teams clamoring for pitching. Is Arrieta a $35-40 pitcher at auction simply because teams need arms and have too much cash to spend? It wouldn’t surprise me.

Trade Block Review: The Foundation

The Foundation is offering:

BAILEY’s Thoughts

The Foundation, pushing for a playoff spot, has realized the value of addition by subtraction and has listed Steven Matz on the trade block accordingly. I imagine the goal here is to trick someone into trading for this human home run machine, perhaps using shady and underhanded tactics.

What can Matz add to your fantasy team: well, salary, for one. He’s also still just 28, so you can fool yourself into believing he still has upside. And let’s be honest: if he’s cut this offseason, he’s going to go for $45 at auction anyway because there won’t be any starting pitchers available at auction while there will be nine teams who need five pitchers each. Someone will definitely gamble $45 that Matz has been converted back to a starter by then. I mean, Matt Harvey was kept at $34. The league-wide desire for pitching has gone well beyond just desperation. So by trading for Matz now, you can meet your awful pitcher quota early instead of bothering with the auction. Trade an asset, free up a future Saturday!

As for Jordan specifically, well, if he’d simply read the trade block post directly above him, he’d know precisely who to offer Matz to:

That’s right. HLR is desperate to acquire a streaming reliever. While Matz is considerably worse than any free agent relief pitcher out there, still, there could be a match here. Would HLR take on Matz in exchange for a coveted 5th round pick? There’s no telling.

Overall, this trade block sucks and The Foundation should be embarrassed to have posted it.

FINAL TRADE BLOCK GRADE: D-

Trade: The Process | Who’s Your Haddy?

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Who’s Your Haddy? trades away

  • Gibson, Kyle $15
  • Pence, Hunter $5.50

The Process trades away

  • Trammell, Taylor (prospect)
  • La Stella, Tommy $5.50

Jordan’s Thoughts

Ferns continues his all in push by swapping out this year’s Justin Turner break out candidate Tommy La Stella who just broke his leg for two useful pieces. La Stella poses to be an easy keeper into next year even if he gets greeded significantly.

Hunter Pence found a time machine back to his 2011 former self and has been hitting a .393 wOBA with a 142 wRC+. But, he’s hurt. Will the magic rebirth fade away? Who knows.

Kyle Gibson has given up a few extra homers this year, but has walked more than a batter less per nine innings. He’s getting better, and if the home run rate regresses for him, he’s a legit top end pitcher for fantasy purposes. However, in 2019’s home run setting, Gibson is merely above average.

Taylor Trammel is a top 10 prospect and a pretty significant price to pay for Pence and Gibson. Trammel isn’t exactly lighting up the minor leagues, but he’s moving up at a reasonable rate and he has incredible plate discipline.

I like the trade for both teams. Ferns isn’t making this deal if La Stella isn’t hurt. Sometimes those kinds of things happen and force some action. Pence’s long term value is little at best, but Kyle Gibson has been slowly ascending tiers. I prefer Haddy’s side all said and done, but barely.

Hustle’s Toxic $.02

Value wise, this trade really does seem fine. I like it for both teams. Hunter Pence is something again, but clearly has overachieved and not counting on him for next season seems like a no brainer decision for Haddy, even if that one somehow backfires. For Ferns, he’s a useful OF/UTIL piece rest of a season with the potential to keep cheaply.

Kyle Gibson as a sub $20 keeper next year is an underrated asset.  He’s depth to Ferns rotation now and an easy unexciting keep.  The auction will be slightly better this year, but if you think you’re picking up multiple solid SP options in the 2020 season, you’re probably wrong.  If you think you’re going to win good cheap SP options in the 2020 auction for 2021, you’re almost definitely wrong.  I’ve had cap space in the 2017/2018 auctions and went after pitching and don’t think anyone ended up on my team the year after from those picks. Not to say it hasn’t or can’t be done, but it’s quite difficult and flukey.  Haddy is thin on SP and this makes his rotation for next year even thinner.  With a lot of budget, just keeping Gibson and needing one less SPs makes some sense.

“Tommy La Stella’s injury is a crushing blow to The Process” is a sentence I never thought I’d be saying non-sarcastically. But I did. If La Stella is the new Justin Turner, that certainly favors Haddy’s side here.  Much like with his Montas acquisition, who knows if they are truly for real. I actually dont hate getting both those guys for Haddy at all. They were cheaper to acquire than sexy minor leaguers, are very cheap, and are major league ready. If Montas and La Stella are even close to what we’ve seen this year, it will really jumpstart his rebuild.

As I have told Bailey well before this trade was made, I believe Taylor Trammel’s best use in an ottoneu points themed league is for tradebait.  He seems like a major leaguer one day, but I’m having trouble seeing him anything more than a servicable starter. He just seems like a better real life player or for a league that counts steals. His name surpasses his value here, and even after I take this minor poop on him, Haddy should have no trouble trading him for someone more useful to him. He’s on lists, he’s a dude, he’s tradebait.

 

 

Trade: Beach Bum | Who’s Your Haddy?

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Beach Bum🏝😎trades away

  • Schmidt, Clarke (prospect)
  • Baumann, Michael (prospect)

Who’s Your Haddy? trades away

  • Posey, Buster $58

Jordan’s Thoughts

Haddy has traded away here a future Hall of Famer, Buster Posey who so far in 2019 has not been very useful. Posey has been a part of our auction draft every single year because he’s always too expensive to keep. But, then in the draft enough teams realize there’s more money available than there are elite talents.

So guys like Posey get a lot of money based on name value. Not awful. Beach Bum is buying low on a potential second half bounce back. We’ve seen worse deals.

Clarke Schmidt is a 45FV prospect in the Yankees organization who is 23 years old and hasn’t gotten above A-ball. Pitchers can make large jumps and the level is less important than for hitters. So far this year he’s doing alright, but he’s probably a reliever.

Michael Baumann is a podcaster for The Ringer’s MLB Show who dabbles as a 40FV prospect in the Baltimore Orioles system. Both pitching prospects here are old for their level and have good numbers. Maybe something happens.

Posey is a waiver wire add, and the two prospects are also waiver wire adds. This trade is fine in the fact that for both teams, nobody lost anything, so there’s likely that nobody really gained anything.

 

Hustle’s Toxic $.02

Wow, I’m inspired by Jordan looking up prospects.  Posey is having a down year and is quite an easy cut again, but he’s shown signs of life lately.  Without a doubt Haddy will not regret giving away Posey, and if he does he will get him in auction for certainly less than $58.  That being said, these prospects are nothing and I feel like you shop and research prospects a little better to find someone with more value. If Posey suffers a serious injury between now and the trade deadline, you get nothing.  I still take the risk and do that if the price tag on him currently was nothing, which by this trade, it was.

Dan has all his draft picks right now and is currently one of the best teams in the league while using Alex Avila and Curt Casail.  Does he really turn down a 2nd or 3rd round pick for Buster Posey? I would not if I were in his shoes. Those picks are easily sellable for somewhere between $3-12 if every other minor league draft is any indication.  $3-12 is better than nothing, which was the return here.

Trade: The Foundation | Who’s Your Haddy?

The Foundation trades away

  • 2020 Draft Pick, Round 4 (Who’s Your Haddy?)
  • Montas, Frankie $5
  • Waters, Drew (prospect)

Who’s Your Haddy? trades away

  • Sale, Chris $94

Jordan’s Thoughts

I mean its Chris Sale. He used April for Spring Training, and now he’s a top 5 pitcher again. Frankie Montas got caught doping, he won’t pitch again this year, at least in a Dynasty Grinders season window. For $5, based on his performance gain, Montas is a huge piece of this trade. He’s hard to lose. But, anytime with PEDs, there’s just a ton of questions that cloud the value.

Perhaps he comes back next season and he’s a top 10 pitcher at essentially no cost. Perhaps he comes back and he’s average. Who knows. He had value, but no longer had value to me for this year where I’m trying to win. Easy for me to move away from.

Being in the 6th spot in a 6 team playoff format, this kind of trade helps me hang on. Once you’re in the playoffs, in our head to head format, pitchers like Chris Sale can swing a playoff week for you. Who knows? He could help me make a run.

For Haddy’s, selling Sale makes enough sense. I’m guessing when he shopped Sale around he was hoping for a stronger market. Getting back Montas is fine. Drew Waters is a FV55 center fielder who in double-A is crushing the ball. His 152 wRC+ over 80 games trends well for the 20-year-old. Waters has been climbing prospect charts for a while now and shows no real signs of slowing down.

Overall, I love this trade for myself. Losing Montas and Waters is easily worth the gamble to hold on and solidify myself for a playoff run. Even if I miss the playoffs, Sale is keepable at whatever price tag. He’s just that consistently good.

BAILEY’s Thoughts

A lot of what I wrote about the Verlander trade applies here and I don’t want to go heavy negative again twice.

So having said that, predictably, yes, I like this for Jordan. When this deal first went down, I sort of assumed it’d be tough for Jordan to keep Chris Sale at $99 — but he’s probably gonna cost around $110 when all is said and done — but that’s not true. Andrew McCutchen coming off injury at $54 is an easy cut. Jose Quintana, who went for an inflated auction lack-of-pitching price and will be $60, is an easy cut. That right there is $114, which is Sale’s max value. Anyone in their right mind is trading McCutchen/Quintana for Sale, so sure. Obviously that doesn’t include raises, greed, or cost control arbitration, but it’s close enough to where Jordan can move around lesser, meaningless pieces and make it work. Like, you don’t keep a $28 Yasiel Puig if it means losing Sale. Ditto a $68 Corey Seager. So yeah, great deal for 2019 Jordan and beyond.

For Haddy, I’ll stay positive: I love Drew Waters. I picked him up last year and think he’s going to be really good. The Braves future outfield looks stacked. The 4th round pick is… literally nothing. I can’t be positive there.

The best part of this trade is Frankie Montas, who will be $7 pre-greed and while he’s risky, at least we’ve seen flashes of excellence at the major league level. Montas is the type of piece missing from so many of these rebuild deals, where teams seem hell bent on picks and prospects and blind to actual major league talent.

This year Montas pitched to a brilliant 2.90 FIP and 3.38 xFIP over 90 innings. And contrary to what Jordan wrote, I don’t feel like the PEDs are a big red flag over his performance. He added a splitter to his repertoire this year, giving him a fourth pitch, and it worked out great for him. PEDs won’t change that. In fact, for Haddy, the suspension is pretty great. He just gets to sit and rest his arm for three months. Yay.

To me, at 202 career IP and now that he’s got this new pitch, Montas is essentially still a prospect. He’s only 26 and pitchers take time. But unlike any other pitching prospect on a Top 100 list, he’s done stuff at the majors. There’s a track record here. He’s not a total dart throw. So for Haddy, I like the main piece coming back being one of immediate, somewhat proven fantasy relevance.

Trade: TBD | Who’s Your Haddy?

TBD trades away

  • Solak, Nick (prospect)
  • May, Dustin (prospect)
  • Adams, Jordyn (prospect)
  • Groshans, Jordan (prospect)
  • 2020 Draft Pick, Round 1 (The Process)

Who’s Your Haddy? trades away

  • Verlander, Justin $50

Jordan’s Thoughts

Justin Verlander is OLD. 36 is a high number for a baseball player and fantasy owners alike. However, this deal is about finishing this year strong. TBD currently in first place, is padding their roster for a deep playoff run. It is smart, makes sense, and its for a player that clearly makes a difference.

Verlander is currently 5th in highest points scored in our league. He’s averaging nearly 42 points a start. In a two start week, he can bury your opponent. He didn’t help Haddy enough, as the rest of your roster still matters, but for TBD’s duo, the rest of their roster was fine before they added Verlander.

For TBD making this trade is easy. Trading some of tomorrow’s lottery tickets for an actual top end upgrade for today is something you do every day. Prospects are easy to come by, teams need them, they’re nice to have, but this is the best way (in my humble opinion) to use prospects. To push to win. Waiting on them to mature is fine, you hope they make crazy weird jumps to relevance that makes you feel good and seem like a genius. But, none of us really know.

For Haddy, well if you’re out, these kinds of deals make sense. Verlander isn’t helping you win this year, winning is no longer a top concern. Verlander would help you win next year, however he is older, and he’s a pitcher and they break. If I’m Haddy I’m pretty happy with this return. He’s getting two top 100 prospects, May who’s a top 20, plus two other prospects who are better than interesting.

The two Jordan’s (Jordyn?) were first round top 20 picks in the MLB 2018 draft. Both grade out as 45+ FV guys with hit tools being their ticket. Betting on those guys is a good idea.

Dustin May (60FV) just got called up to AAA and will be tested by the new home run ball. So far in 2019 he has looked good and projects to be a middle of the rotation, perhaps potentially a top end starter.

Nick Solak (50FV) is also in AAA for the Rays/Expos and he walks and hits for power. He’s the classic profile I like to target for my hitters in these kinds of leagues. For me he looks like a high floor hitter, with a ceiling that potentially could be very sexy.

I like what Haddy got back, but he’ll miss Verlander next year when he’s going to push to get back into the playoffs again. TBD will have forgotten who these prospects are this time next year. They have shown time and time again their ability to reload the system cost effectively. Verlander doesn’t guarantee a championship, but it makes it harder for them to lose it.

Bailey’s Thoughts

Okay, so up front: Jordan’s already written his review, but I’m not going to read it first. So if I repeat anything he said, sorry.

In short: I love this for TBD and don’t understand it at all for Haddy. I really don’t.

Here’s the thing about this league, in my opinion: we’re in year four and there has, to my recollection, never been an “ace” starting pitcher at auction. Let me think. I think Luis Severino was in our second year, but he was just a random former prospect then. And are we confident he’s an “ace” currently? I’m sure not. I guess Zach Greinke, Madison Bumgarner, and David Price were the year before last. But is Price an “ace”? I think you want him as your SP2 or SP3, not SP1. Is Bumgarner an ace? I’d debate that, though he’s obviously good. Greinke’s an ace. So okay, in four years, one proven, surefire ace SP has made it to auction, and I think at the time there were looming questions about him. That’s the thing. These top tier starters do not hit auction. They don’t. Verlander won’t. TBD is 100% keeping him unless he suffers an injury, or I guess trading him.

I guess also, when I say “ace,” it’s kind of deceiving because it makes you think pitcher. I’m sort of thinking as just overall, elite player. Mike Trout doesn’t get to auction. Cody Bellinger doesn’t. Christian Yelich doesn’t. Freddie Freeman doesn’t. The only way you get these guys is by trading for them or by stumbling upon one.

Here’s what happens, time and time again: all the stud pitchers get sold for prospects because their salary or age is so terrifying. Oh no, Verlander is 36 and my goal is to build a dynasty that dominates for eight years in a row, gotta dump him. Then there’s 6-8 teams with $200+ of cap space to spend on the ace they assume will get cut, but instead, those 6-8 teams get to fight over Chris Archer or Dallas Keuchel or Buster Posey whoever. One of each of that tier of player gets dispersed to those 6-8 teams, but because those 6-8 teams gutted themselves to get a low salary, that one player doesn’t change anything. And also half those players bust because they were risky to begun with, thus being sent back to auction. Rinse and repeat. The year we had Greinke, Bumgarner, Price, and oh yeah, Shohei Ohtani, guess what? Four separate teams totaling $218 in salary. So if you’ve rebuilt down to $250 of cash to spend, you better: (a) hope there are four players like that at auction, (b) win two or three, if not all four, and (c) then hope the player actually pans out to be an impact player. Living the auction dream is scary shit.

I want very badly to know what the market was for a $50, starting at $52 to keep, Justin Verlander. At worst, he gets $15 of greed and costs $67. THAT. IS. NOTHING. He’s the 5th overall scorer right now, this year. He finished third last year. He finished 19th the year before and third a year earlier. I get that pitchers are fragile, old pitchers especially, but this dude will impact your team more than almost any other player. I continue to not understand why a guy like this is considered such a bad risk but a pitching prospect isn’t. JV’s a 99th percentile performer and he fetched… two good prospects (May, Groshans), a couple prospects that teams like HLR, TBD, and Long Ball scoop off waivers with regularity, and a draft pick. That’s it? I’m a dipshit for not submitting offers. Shame on me. I didn’t think I had the pieces. But I want to know if any “rebuilders” inquired here. Haddy? Did you get offers from the teams that have gutted their rosters down to $200? Why didn’t you engage with me on Trevor Story (was it the Matt Chapman thing, where cost control is only cool until the player is a stud, then it’s not sexy anymore) for Verlander? WHYYYYYY?!

I like Dustin May and all, but TINSTAAPP. I like Jordan Groshans too, but optimistically, he’s not scoring fantasy points until 2021. Maybe Nick Solak becomes Jeff McNeil or something, which is helpful but lacking real impact. A first round pick? What freakin’ ever.

If I’m Haddy, I’d rather just keep Verlander and run it back in 2020 and maybe 2021 and maybe even 2022, especially after already dumping Chris Sale. Cut freakin’ Jose Abreu‘s $70 salary and just keep Verlander. Or trade Abreu for half this same package. Easy. Sure, maybe you flip all the ones you just got for this type of guy later, but maybe not. Again, the list of guys who produce like JV is super slim. Bird in hand, etc. I’m not taking this package for Scherzer. I doubt HLR’s taking it for Arenado. Dan’s not taking it for Yelich or Gerrit Cole. Maybe May becomes Syndergaard 2.0, but cost controlled, and I look foolish. Except not really, because even if that happens, that’s not even remotely the most likely outcome. That’s dumb luck. If he ever, at any point, becomes Verlander right now, you basically hit the lottery. I’ll just leave this here:

Trade: The Foundation | Hustle Loyalty Respect

The Foundation trades away

  • Anderson, Ian (prospect)
  • 2020 Draft Pick, Round 1 (The Foundation)

Hustle Loyalty Respect🏃🤝✊trades away

  • 2020 Draft Pick, Round 2 (Hustle Loyalty Respect🏃🤝✊)
  • Syndergaard, Noah $86
  • Ward, Thad (prospect)

Jordan’s Thoughts

Currently The Foundation is sitting in 6th place after losing back to back weeks. At 8-5, the time is now to start spending pieces to move all in. Syndergaard helps a rotation that is currently being led by Ryu and Quintana.  He pairs well with Chris Sale who was acquired at the same time.

Noah Syndergaard has been less great this year than in the past. His strikeouts are down, and he’s generating more fly balls which are leaving ball parks at an all time rate. However, despite the downward trend, he’s still been a 32 point per start pitcher who gets deep into games and still has the stuff and projections that can push him into a keepable $86 pitcher. It’s going to be a tough pill to swallow, but a decision that can be worried about later. Acquiring Thor was about winning right now.

Thad Ward was thrown into the deal, and he’s worth ignoring.

Ian Anderson is currently in double-A for the Atlanta Braves and he’s striking everyone out. He’s walking a lot of dudes too though and that will hold back his potential debut for some time. He’s really good, former number 3 overall MLB draft pick, and currently the 33rd best prospect on the board. There’s real potential that Ian Anderson is pitching this year, but likely he’s on track for 2020. He’s a useful, available soon pitching prospect, assuming he doesn’t blow out his arm.

I love the deal for myself. Anytime you can turn future tickets into a win now move to win actual real money. You just have to do it. Jonny had been shopping Thor for months and for whatever reason, the market depressed itself to the point where the swap for the younger shiny toy at a cheaper cost just made sense. Hopefully, Thor is the swing man that helps The Foundation topple over the Hustlers.

Hustle’s TOXIC $.02

I got bored so I decided to rebuild. I think Thor is good, but would be impossible for me to keep.  I kinda thought I have the pitching depth to make this move, but maybe I don’t. Time will tell. If Thor gets injured, I don’t get half this return, probably in the offseason as well.  Jordan scoring the lowest points in the league the week before triggered him into making some trades, so I felt like this was a now or never time to trade Thor. Never was certainly a viable option, just ride him out and cut him in the offseason or trade him very little.  It was a risk, so be it.

I hope that the trade relationship I built with Jordan by giving him a top level pitcher will benefit me in the future like it has for Elton. Do I put a “/s”?  Is it implied?  Who knows?

I’m probably keeping close to $500 worth of players this offseason even without Thor, so locking in some upside pitchers who are close to the majors has been a plan of mine. Hoping 1 of Pearson, Manning, Anderson, or Deivi become a very valuable pitcher that I can build around.  If 2 or more hit, even better.

Hopefully Jordan loses some games to make that first round pick more valuable, but with his schedule altering, seems doubtful.